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[BIARC] Bill Hanson, HCCDA, response to Hamfest Roundtable questions


Ceridwen Sanders via BIARC biarc@mailman.qth.net

10:51 AM (6 hours ago)
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Bill Hanson, HCCDA, has clarified several issues  that seemed to cause confusion for the participants of the Hamfest Roundtable.  He is available to refine his responses, if requested, and answer any other questions.  Please send all questions to BigIslandRADIO@groups.io <mailto:BigIslandRADIO@groups.io>. Thanks, Ceri

1) Who is allowed to participate in when ACS stands up for an event?
ACS is stood up for incidents and usually not events.  ACS can be considered as a dispatch unit is to Fire and Police.  ACS personnel are knowledgeable about handling traffic between field reporting personnel and Civil Defense, again, similar to a dispatch unit at Fire or Police and field personnel.

2) What is the relationship between ACS and CERT?
ACS is not a CERT Program.  Participants are sourced from multiple areas, one being CERT.

3) What is the relationship between HCCDA and ACS?
HCCDA developed ACS.  HCCDA is an ACS primary client.  ACS’s sole goal is to service reporting needs of HCCDA.

4) What is the relationship between ACS and ARES?
ACS welcomes ARES as a partner.  ARES may have other goals and objectives than ACS.

5) What message handling protocols and modes  are used by ACS?
Those that are requested and required by HCCDA.  Information pushed through ACS mirrors HCCDA request/requirement.

6) What training, exercises does ACS offer to learn those protocols?
HCCDA can set up training sessions to accomplish that.

7) Who is responsible for initiating the net when ACS stands up for an incident?
HCCDA is.  The directive comes from HCCDA Administrator to me, then me to ACS.

8) Who determines what frequency is used?
Repeater frequencies of course are issued by the coordinator on Oahu.  ACS does not only use radios to communicate information and data.  ACS leverages and uses other existing technologies as well as radio such as internet.  As for frequencies, HCCDA is still in the process of building out repeaters that HCCDA owns.

There was another question earlier regarding the general message form ICS-213.  Over the years and many incidents, HCCDA has streamlined the process of conveying information to the field and reporting from the field.  In short, the 213 is basically a blank piece of paper.  However, HCCDA knows what information it seeks and asks upfront for specific information to be reported on.  HCCDA determines specific information parameters and requests field personnel report accordingly.  There is of course more than just field reporting and that is also taken into consideration.  Those other considerations are primarily RFAs and RFIs that would come in from the field to HCCDA.  These parameters are no different than information and data HCCDA asks Fire, Ocean Safety, Police, and DPW to provide.  So, ACS reporting falls directly in line with how and what HCCDA askes of agency partners.  In a nutshell, this is very much a streamlined process and takes much of the guess work and question marks out of field reporting.  HCCDA welcomes its partners in the community, clubs, ARES and more to develop and have capacity.

Please let me know if you need me to explain any of the points.

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Glenn via BIARC biarc@mailman.qth.net

11:12 AM (6 hours ago)
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Thank you Ceri and List Serve members.
I hope you are on this list Elizabeth, WH6FKT, and have read Bill H’s responses.
I say again that I do not think a large no. of hams should check into ACS.  It is not appropriate and will clog it up.  I suggest separate nets and freq/repeaters for ARES or other groups be they Church/Faith oriented or other as you mentioned this morning on 2m, Elizabeth.
RFA or RFI generated on these other nets/repeaters/freq could be referred to ACS by the proper representative already recognized by ACS and known by ACS to be reliable, etc.
Time sensitive requests should try 911 or their CERT team comm. spec. first.
ARES can work on other purposes they can fullfill – and it doesn’t have to serve an agency – it can facilitate Health and Welfare messages to inform family and friends of peoples’ condition.  ARES can disseminate “correct” information regarding the incident/emergency to hams.   Especially as it approaches if that is known like a hurricane or early reports of conditions in different areas can be communicated over an ARES/Faith based (Elizabeth’s term) or other group’s (PERC?) network.
As such though maybe ICS or EC (001 etc) training may be useful, I prefer time and effort and practice (again your term Elizabeth) be done to experience and improve use of ham radio to communicate with others – knowing your equipment and how to operate it well as well as behavior on nets, protocols, etc.  Simplex is not as “simple” as it sounds.
Thanks for reading if you did.
73,Glenn, AH6IO

Glenn via BIARC biarc@mailman.qth.net

12:05 PM (5 hours ago)
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BIARC List serve members;
Please excuse the additional comment.  I wrote a couple of responses and left out this in the list serve reply.  Instead of many/most checking in to the ACS net, there is no reason one cannot listen to the ACS net and get info that way.  I also have a scanner that can decode the P25 Phase II Hawaii County Public Safety transmissions.  So information can be had that way too.  BTW their repeater(s) have generator back-up and are likely to continue unless the situation is very bad.  These scanners are expensive but may be worth it – better than money in your bank account.  Or like I used to tell my Mom, better to have good tires than more insurance…  Hi Hi…I suggest you get a scanner and listen – you will, I think, get the idea that you don’t want to be a “call taker” or dispatch.  Remember that during an emergency, you will also get the usual calls for medical, domestic, which can include weapons, intox, etc., frays (fights), burglaries, suspicious persons or vehicles, etc. besides the downed power lines and so forth – and have to deal with their locations and take/give proper directions to their location.  In traffic stops, the names, license plates, etc. are exchanged and looked up – also there is a data base with info for whether or not the RO has a record or outstanding warrants, etc.   Can you take and evaluate or further question a RP (reporting person for the call) ?  All not something we should get involved in – and to separate these from the storm induced or disaster ones is not that easy and may waste time.

Glenn via BIARC biarc@mailman.qth.net

4:11 PM (1 hour ago)
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why are some of my replies going to the list serve and some not ?  When I select reply all I am assuming it will go to all the Biarc list members.G.
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Russell Roberts (KH6JRM).